When the house lights dim and the curtain rises, magic happens on stage—and it's no different when West End star and all round lovely bloke - David Kristopher-Brown joins Jonathan & Juan for a good old chat.
They discuss his career and discover if, at the age of 38, he's already smashed many of the 'things to do by 40 list'!
Also on this episode; Middle Age Rage where we read out your midlife annoyances and Dave gives us his Moan of the Week!!
Find David at the links below:
Dave's Insta: instagram.com/the_dave_monster
Sophie and Dave's Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SophieandDave
See David in Phantom of the Opera as Piangi: https://uk.thephantomoftheopera.com/tickets/
Please rate and share this episode if you enjoyed it. This really helps us grow the pod!
If you have any questions for us, please email: 40plusandminuses@gmail.com
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When the house lights dim and the curtain rises, magic happens on stage—and it's no different when West End star and all round lovely bloke - David Kristopher-Brown joins Jonathan & Juan for a good old chat.
They discuss his career and discover if, at the age of 38, he's already smashed many of the 'things to do by 40 list'!
Also on this episode; Middle Age Rage where we read out your midlife annoyances and Dave gives us his Moan of the Week!!
Find David at the links below:
Dave's Insta: instagram.com/the_dave_monster
Sophie and Dave's Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SophieandDave
See David in Phantom of the Opera as Piangi: https://uk.thephantomoftheopera.com/tickets/
Please rate and share this episode if you enjoyed it. This really helps us grow the pod!
If you have any questions for us, please email: 40plusandminuses@gmail.com
Follow us at the following @40plus_and_minuses_podcast
Hello, welcome to 40 plus and minus years with me, Jonathan Alden and the fantastic Juan Morales.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 1:There he is. Last week you were incomparable, incomparable, comparable. Incomparable, Incomparable sorry, yep, and this week you're fantastic. You can see how I big you up at the beginning of the video.
Speaker 3:Thank you, so true, and you're just kind of okay, I'm just here, yeah, just there. Make it numbers, hey.
Speaker 1:So episode eight is going to be great. Coming up in this episode, we've got our usual moment of the week, we've also got our new middle-aged rage and the most important news is we have our first ever 40 plus and minus special guest, west End and YouTube star, all to be revealed later in this episode. So if you're listening to this, you've probably already seen his name in the title yeah, nice. So fuck that. It's David Christopher Brown. David Christopher Brown, david Christopher Brown. So here we are. Our first ever guest on 40 plus and minus is. This is a milestone.
Speaker 3:Juan, did you think we'd get here? I genuinely know, because I wasn't sure who would ask. No one wanted to come on.
Speaker 2:I feel genuinely honored to be the first one.
Speaker 1:The thing that you won't know about as a listener is Juan has just given some technical advice which is like the last thing.
Speaker 3:It's amazing, I'm becoming a tech guru.
Speaker 1:Unbelievable. Anyway, without further ado, please welcome David Christopher Brown. Hello, Hello gents, Welcome to the world of middle-aged misery. How are you? Oh wonderful.
Speaker 3:Get off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no good, thank you. Good Coming to us direct from London's West.
Speaker 3:End I was going to say he's mocking us with his dressing room. I'm looking the back, going, that's just a mockery of like it's an achievement. He's sitting somewhere, like he's achieving just by sitting down.
Speaker 2:No, I've got him. I've got a second lesson just after this because I'm not as good as they'd like me to be, so I have to be in work.
Speaker 1:That's the true reason why Juan's got a lovely 70s slatted covered behind him. I've got a Hoover and a towel and you've got a West End dressing room, so already definitely, definitely one up.
Speaker 2:I've got massive feather coming out my head from one of my hat. That was good. I can't stop looking at that, but yeah.
Speaker 1:So we should, for the benefit of the listeners, just say how we know each other. So I met you back in 2019.
Speaker 2:I was thinking about it. Yeah, end of 2019.
Speaker 1:Over in Guernsey, we did a production of Phantom of the Opera, which is very apt, because that's the show you're now currently in in the West End. We did a concert version.
Speaker 3:And I've seen it.
Speaker 1:So that's good, you did yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've seen it once, not in Guernsey, just once generally.
Speaker 2:I thought you meant you came to Guernsey. I was like wow.
Speaker 3:My contribution to this is I've seen Phantom of the Opera.
Speaker 2:Well, you're doing better than some.
Speaker 1:Some people haven't seen it. This is true. This is true, but you were playing the part you are now playing in the West End. Yeah, and you were opera singer Pianjie.
Speaker 2:Correct, very good.
Speaker 1:So we met for four years and then we got on so well and then we discovered we lived in the same town of Bezenstoke at the time yeah, which who wants to live there? But? And you very quickly discovered I lived there and very quickly moved out of town.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was no correlation, I promise.
Speaker 3:You stay.
Speaker 2:You stay. Who wanted to live there? Definitely not my wife. She hated it, so it was not her favorite place.
Speaker 3:I thought it was lovely I'm with her. It was great it was.
Speaker 2:I liked it. It was a lovely industrial look.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's got everything you need, it's just got no soul to it no offence to anyone who lives in Bezenstoke. I think my hatred for it is more to do with the fact I was doing a 95 job for the past five years.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It was a rough gift that job for you. Yeah, it was. So, dave, tell us a bit about yourself. Firstly, for qualification purposes, how old are you? I'm 37.
Speaker 2:I'm about to be well, I'll be 30. That is good. Sorry, I was showing myself that Two nil, but yeah. So, like you said, we met on, which was one of my favorite gigs. I know that it was maybe because there wasn't enough time to get annoyed at anyone yet.
Speaker 2:But I think it was only like two and a half weeks or something, that gig in total, and it was honestly one of my favorite, favorite jobs, and obviously I met one of my best friends in it, so that was cool. It's very surreal for me, I mean yeah, absolutely. This is very surreal for me, though, because I don't think me and one of our actually have met, but I've been so aware of who you are for like 15 years, and this job that we do you tend to have like mutual friends and like your name just keeps coming up all the time In a good way or a bad way. No, no, in a good way, in a good way.
Speaker 3:And did you not do some small love story Ages ago? Yeah, just before you and then I did it after and I met you. I think you came to watch it.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's so true. Yeah, I totally forgot that in Manchester. Yes, just very briefly. Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, we have a number of years ago, when I was but a young son, when I was basically your age, I think now that's a disgrace, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Oh no, that's awful.
Speaker 3:Oh, there we go.
Speaker 2:And now James, who was the other James, and that is my brother-in-law, really, yeah, so he met his wife, who is my wife's sister, when we first did that job. Anyway, that's such a tangent, but, yeah, good times.
Speaker 1:So, Dave, give us a little bit of so you're obviously 38, so give us a little bit of background of what you do and what you're doing at the moment and everything else, and then we'll get into some other stuff.
Speaker 2:We'll rip it apart.
Speaker 1:So, Dave, what do you do with your youth and your fucking wife's siblings?
Speaker 2:Okay, so yeah, as you said, I'm an actor and predominantly do musical theatre, but I've had the fortune of doing a couple of other little bits and pieces, which has been really nice. Play goes wrong Play goes wrong is one of those things which was my favourite show for a long time, and then I got to be in it not just in it, but like I played almost all of the men in it at some point or another. So that was really cool. And, yeah, like just before this I had been, I just had my first little boy well, my first child, who is a little boy called Barney. So we relocated to Cheshire, so you said I didn't know about you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or the other boys, any of the other boys? Yeah, the litter that we had. So we relocated to Cheshire just to be close to my wife's family and to have some support there. So, yeah, this coming back to theatre and stuff has been a relatively new thing. I've been in the show for about six months now and it's been really nice because I was in the show a long time ago and I understudied the part. It was the second cover so I didn't really get to do it very much and so it feels very full circle to come back and like in the same building where some of the people are. Some of the wardrobe people were still the same from like 16 years ago. It's bizarre, but in the best possible way. So, yeah, like.
Speaker 1:Cool time. And you also worked with another mutual friend of ours, rachel.
Speaker 2:Yes, in that show, yes, which is one of the times I heard about Juan first.
Speaker 3:Juan right.
Speaker 2:Juan, because you guys all did sweetie talk together right. Yeah, of course you did.
Speaker 1:So she was telling me all about sweetie talk. I don't know anyone who's worked with Rachel who hasn't heard about me or Juan before we've met them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's true. It's true absolutely, and I definitely heard about you as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and not just stuff that you've been like. I think that's fine. Tell me about your friend Stuff you're like why are you doing that? Yeah, unbelievably personal things.
Speaker 3:Like you got. Oh OK, you learn very quickly. She's lovely Rachel, but I only tell her things you want everyone to know and she does it in the nicest possible way. I mean to be fair.
Speaker 1:If you had a real secret, she could keep it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's not real stuff. It's just kind of she's so open as a person. It's just situations you wouldn't expect anyone to talk about.
Speaker 1:That's how me and Juan became friends. Because we were doing sweetie talk together with Rachel and her friend Darren, and Duncan, everyone else, and we didn't know each other and I think at the time we were both single. I think we both sort of thought Rachel was all right and we were sort of maybe fans of her or whatever so. But we kept getting told by her that the other person didn't like each other. We said, oh, I think Juan's a bit funny about you because I think you know, or I think John's a bit. So we have this kind of like standoffish, kind of like oh, that guy, I don't know, I don't know. And then it's just one day we had like a weekend off or something, and I can't remember why. But we ended up calling each other and said oh, I'm free, I'm knocking around, should we hang out? I just realized that there was no issue with us at all. We got on so well, I had such a laugh and that was it then.
Speaker 2:Well, do you know what?
Speaker 3:actually happened. No, we had a week off from the show and then you were kind of sitting in that mobile home stroke caravan where you were staying and Rachel said to me, why do you call John? Because he's by himself? And I was like, oh, I guess, so I don't know, I'm just not sure if we'd get on.
Speaker 3:She goes no, no, I think you would. She went in the exact opposite. I remember thinking. But you said that I was like, ok, I'll show her, ok, fine, I'll give John a call, and that's how it came. So she, kind of like, did the opposite as well. It was just really bizarre. That was the first moment I thought do you remember anything we spoke about? I was like, OK, sure, why not?
Speaker 2:That was the beginning of the drinking, the beginning of the end. I reckon she just wanted you to fight for her affection. She wanted you to have a duel.
Speaker 1:I challenge you to a duel. So there you are. So you've got a good acting career, but you've also got a very successful YouTube channel with your lovely wife, sophie, called Sophie and Dave. How did you come up with that name?
Speaker 2:I thought long and hard about it, honestly, yeah, no, I just felt normal.
Speaker 1:It is right, it's a great channel. I met, obviously, kate I didn't know you had a channel or anything when I met you. I think some people had seen your channel before, but it's great. So it's really. It's basically like your lives, isn't it? You and your wife? Initially, you and your wife did do a lot of Disney content, wasn't it? Disney parks and trips and just really lovely, honest, easy watch, isn't it? It's nice and then you bring you into your. Obviously you're showing people what you want to see on YouTube. You're not going to show them all the walks and all, because it's like trying to be a nice light entertainment YouTube channel. You're not going to be like I'm having a really tough shit today, but yeah.
Speaker 2:It's tough, though, because you want to. It's tough you don't want to sugarcoat things, you don't want to like. You know, I feel like we live in a world where everyone's just showing their highlight reels and you know you want to try and show a bit of that stuff as well, that's why I don't post anything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's good to say, hi, that reel what's that?
Speaker 2:Just take yourself completely out of it. But then also, you know, with us we had to start.
Speaker 2:You know considering, you know we've got Barney now, who's our little boy, and there's an element of like he can't really yet tell us if he wants to be in the videos and stuff. So we started also having that as something that we were very aware of, just making sure that we weren't over-trading on him and stuff like that. So, yeah, it's been tough to navigate that, but I'm glad that you said that you feel like it was nice, nice heartwarming content. That's what we're aiming for.
Speaker 1:I watch it whenever new videos come out, not just because you're my mate. I watch it because it's just quite an easy watch. You know it's the content you do is nice, you know it's nothing too harrowing and stuff you know. And it's also interesting to see your you know, because I know your journey. So I get both sides of it. I get the YouTube journey and I get the behind the scenes content. So I'm always like an exclusive painter sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's why I'm so excited, but like the highest tier possible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, but I don't pay anything for it.
Speaker 2:Also, yeah, exactly. But also I've been told that people think that my wife has a really soothing, relaxing, asmr type voice as well. So I do think that helps, because she's always like, if she, if she's just trying to have like a little chat, think people like really, like she's very specific, like oh, yeah, do you think she does, or do you just say what people are talking? Not with me, not in person, Like no.
Speaker 1:Shut up. Take your hand with our voice and we'll back off.
Speaker 3:Make sure that you record some of your home conversations and then play them over the YouTube videos Like yeah.
Speaker 2:Now, what do you think? Yeah, absolutely, this is what you thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, to be fair, like she's awesome, but yeah, I mean to be fair. All she ever hears from me is like, yeah, in the background, anyway.
Speaker 1:So for those of you who are regular listeners of the podcast, you will know that I've told a story a couple of times about having an interaction that's not saying so wrong. I should rephrase that I'm saying interaction with a toddler. Of course it's so wrong.
Speaker 2:How long has it?
Speaker 1:been Never taste lawns to get the pedophilia on this Legally.
Speaker 2:I haven't told that I have to call it an interaction.
Speaker 1:No, but I was throwing a friend's toddler up in the air and I was knackered and I realized how out of shape it was. Dave's toddler Barney was said toddler. And he loves you and, yeah, we got on great. He was such a great kid and we, oh my god, did that fucking knack on me and I thought, yeah, I need to get a fitter to be a dad. That was one of the first moments I went Jesus. That was just like a 30 second interaction.
Speaker 2:He is a particularly hyperactive child, though I'll give you that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but it wasn't that. It's just the physicality of throwing a child.
Speaker 2:No, of course I understand that, but what I will say is that I was very much because, for people who can't see, I am also a larger lady.
Speaker 1:For a lopchage lady that you are.
Speaker 2:So yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's definitely something that's gone through my head, for sure. But, like a lot of our family who also have kids, and, like you know, my mother-in-law, who's got like a bunch of grandkids and stuff, is very much like, oh yeah, he's got a lot of energy, like even for a kid he's got a lot of energy.
Speaker 1:So that was Very similar to Juan's energy, just like.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely. That is basically my. I'm like either, like a hundred and fifty percent.
Speaker 1:This is the best class energy I've ever done the whole time. Yeah, I mean, I'm literally sleeping, or?
Speaker 3:just like constantly doing stuff. That's it. I've got nothing else. I've no wind down type.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's your two settings Two settings, yeah, on and off, absolutely. So obviously we're.
Speaker 3:Juan and off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hey, I like a new one. There could be a feature in that.
Speaker 3:No one's actually ever said that one before You've got a new one? No way. Yes, well done, thanks for bringing back my bullying from school like in a really comedy way. It was good.
Speaker 2:What a weird way to kick me when I'm down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thanks for that regression.
Speaker 3:I'll be going now, juan off. That could be a new feature.
Speaker 1:Juan and off. I like it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Juan and off Juan, off. I love it. So obviously we're on 40 plus amenities and you are 30, almost 38. So firstly, we want to know what are your things that you are dreading about being in your 40s and what are the things you're looking forward to, and has this podcast helped you with that transition in the future?
Speaker 2:I feel like the thing that I keep reminding myself and, to be honest, it's not something that I'm like, oh my God, I'm nearly 40 and I'm terrified. But I remember really feeling like when I was coming up to 30, that I was, I had that real like for all the musical theatre aficionados. I had that real Jonathan Larson tick, tick, boom, like, oh my God, I'm turning 30 and I'm going to be. This is going to be horrendous, and then it turned into like the best time ever. It's kind of like your 20s, but with slightly more money, like.
Speaker 2:So I think what I need to, what I keep trying to remind myself, is that, like, whatever your preconceptions of a certain like number, age number, whatever, you know, when I the last time I had that, I ended up being incredible. So I guess my only thing is that I know that we're not, we don't feel like our family's complete, yet I think we want to have well, I know we want to have another child and I want to make sure that I give myself as much time with that child as possible. Basically, so that I mean, that is something that I'm very aware of, like you know, and that's not just about 40, that's just about time in general, like yeah, I remember, juan, when you I was there when you turned 30, I remember in the flat in Erlstead and he woke up.
Speaker 1:I was like well, I was giving loads of ribbon. I was like I feel fine, I feel fine about it and he was really just like really cool, and I was like I was a bit like oh fuck's sake. You say that I thought he's gonna be devastated. I was really gutted. I was like because obviously he's three years old and me, but then you went out for a run and he came back from the run he went it's hit me, it's actually hit me, I'm fed.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah it did. He came back. He just sat on the show and he went.
Speaker 1:I went you all right, mate. He went. It's just hit me on my run. I'm fucking hell. I'm fucking hell. What the fuck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's true it did. I forgot about that. I can't remember why. I don't know if I don't think I found it any harder or anything but I think I just had time to think. I shouldn't ever give myself time to think, because everything goes a little bit too quickly in my head, so I've ever sit down and had time to think. I'm like, uh-oh, that's running.
Speaker 2:for you, that's too much time to think for me. I don't run anymore.
Speaker 3:It's a waste of time. I can't run anymore. No, but that's not the worst of anything.
Speaker 1:So what are you dreading? What's gonna be the worst thing about getting to our old age by the time? One's turning 47 this year? Yeah, that's 10 years old in 10 years time. What are you worried about?
Speaker 3:I'll tell you what happens.
Speaker 2:You're one and all. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like it's different for you, though. That's such a terrible actor. I don't feel like I mean. There's definitely things I would like to do before that time, but I don't think if it didn't happen I'd be terrified about them. I know that one of our. Well, obviously I talked about having another child, but maybe buying a house would be cool before then, but I wouldn't be like if I'm still renting at 47, I wouldn't be like, oh my God, do you know?
Speaker 3:what I mean Is what happens when it doesn't happen. This is me.
Speaker 2:When you see, this, this is it, this is it, this is it.
Speaker 3:It doesn't happen.
Speaker 2:This is what you've got to look forward to.
Speaker 3:This is what you look like. What's the?
Speaker 1:poster boy for if it doesn't happen, yeah, you'll be dying.
Speaker 3:On the inside You'll still keep that like glaze of like happy the actor, happiness Hi. Yeah, thanks, I'll sign that for you when really you just want to leave.
Speaker 1:I just want to get into my bed.
Speaker 2:On one's headshot.
Speaker 1:it just says after Is the after picture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that brings us on to what we're going to do with you today, so back in season one, all those many months ago, we went through 40 things every 40 year old should have done, so we're going to pick out a handful of those today, with you being a 38, you'll have to see how far ahead of the game you are. Already on us and you've not even reached your full potential.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be interesting, so we're going to pick. So number seven we'll start with, because this is a very easy one is being married. So you've already done that. So that's that's already one nil.
Speaker 2:I am married. Yes, when did you get how old I won't say is. It took a really long time. Like sorry, what year 2019.
Speaker 1:Okay, so, yeah, so you're 34, 33, 34.
Speaker 2:34, but we got engaged about five, six, seven, five, six years before that, like we were engaged for a really long time. And actually we're kind of talking about this Because it's just current engagement is about twice as long.
Speaker 1:If you engage with as long as your marriage and engagement.
Speaker 2:Holden strong. But like we were actually just talking about this the other day because obviously everything would have been still different because we got married in 2019 and we had our honeymoon, and we had a honeymoon in Disney, which obviously was a very specific way, but then obviously, with everything that happened just after 2019, things would have been so different if we if we did just not got married when we did. But yeah, but then what I will say is that I lost my wedding ring pretty quickly after that for like two years, and then it turned up. Remind me how you did that.
Speaker 1:It turned up underneath the set of a show that I was in.
Speaker 2:And so what I'd done was like we talked about play that goes wrong before. It's kind of a dangerous play, but like a very controlled danger. But things like rings and stuff. You're not really supposed to have one because you could quite easily like have an accident or whatever. So took my ring off part of just character stuff, but I forgot to do it upstairs and I left it on the prompt desk and it must have rolled under the set. And then they went to like rip the whole thing out to redo it all just before it reopened after covid. And when they ripped up the thing they were like what's this? And they found my wedding ring, like 18 months after I left the show. So luckily someone called me from the, from the stage department, stage management department, and we're like we've got your ring. I was like amazing. And then about six months later I lost it in the sea. Now it's gone forever.
Speaker 1:You were never meant to have it Sophie's like what are you trying to tell me something?
Speaker 3:I buried it in a.
Speaker 1:Western theater and I put it down the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 2:That's the thing. Like she was there and she was like what, what just fell out your pocket. I was like I don't have anything in my pockets and I had taken it off because I was walking the dog on the beat and he kept pulling on the lead and it kept hurting my ring finger. So I took the ring off and put it in my thing and forgot about it. So yeah, that was a long, a long tangent on just wedding rings, but basically, don't lose your wedding ring if you want to stay married. It's my advice.
Speaker 3:Oh, just don't wear one.
Speaker 1:You've got married in your 30s, which is one upon us, but you're terrible at it. You've lost your ring twice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100% shocking. And also I live in a different city from my wife.
Speaker 3:It's going to last forever.
Speaker 2:That's why you're still married. Yeah, that's probably the only reason why we're still married.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would say I would suggest having another child and then getting a job again in another city.
Speaker 2:So, but like a different country even further even further yeah.
Speaker 3:And then you can just become like the FaceTime dad.
Speaker 2:Hi, hi, yeah, exactly Amazing. Except Barney hates FaceTime and stuff, but yeah absolutely Learn to love it.
Speaker 1:So that brings us onto the second one then, which is secured your dream job. We can safely say we all said we've done that, but you, you're, we haven't done the West End. I was thinking this. I was thinking, oh yeah, you're in the West End now, but you've done the West End now. You did it with Phantom before you did it with Play. That Goes Wrong. Blood Brothers not Blood Brothers, blues Brothers, any other ones. Was that for the four times? I think that's it Was that it. I think that's it.
Speaker 2:That makes me think, because I did Blues Brothers at the same place that Juan did some small love story times. So that means you've done West.
Speaker 3:End yeah, it's fate. Yeah, really.
Speaker 1:I don't see that way. It is now, isn't it? Yeah, it is yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, they told us it was. Yeah, they said that as well. I just kind of didn't feel like for me I didn't. I didn't feel really that part of it. And I'd know I don't feel part of it because when you talk about your shows, I resent you a lot and I wish I could dislike you.
Speaker 2:I can't feel part of it Fully Cool. I'm really getting that from you actually. It's really radiating through the screens. So, thank you, appreciate that?
Speaker 1:Oh no, that's just his normal face. I get that every week. That's just Juan and all. Yeah, that's just it If he's talking he's off.
Speaker 3:If he's not, he's off.
Speaker 1:Play.
Speaker 2:Call back.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, so me, yeah, me and Juan have technically done the West End because of the Barbican and the arts, but you've officially done it. You've worked in the West End in one of the longest running shows for camera Macintosh and one of the biggest plays that's ever been in there. So, yeah, great.
Speaker 2:Let's move on. I feel lucky, but then I guess I mean we kind of talked just just before we Slow clap, exactly the non bitter slow clap. I really, really feeling, feeling the love. But what I was going to say, because we kind of talked about, I know you, one of your segments is more than the week and we did talk about this a little bit, but one of my, one of my moments, if we're going to go on, it's that thing of like hang on, then let's introduce it.
Speaker 1:And if this is going to be your moment of the week, yes, let's do that. Then it is time for special guest Mona the week. Okay, go on, Dave, wash him on the week.
Speaker 2:And this idea that if you do a show in a couple of square miles of a plot of land in London makes it any better or any different to any other show like there is. There is. I don't want to be wrong. I'm grateful for it because, like when I first did this show a long time ago, it got me into a bunch of rooms and that was great because it was West End. But we've all done amazing shows and I don't necessarily. It just really frustrates me when people have this idea that the West End makes it so much better when it you know, like, for example, I did play that goes wrong as well in town. But I also did it on tour and it was hard to work on tour and it was more fun on tour. But for all of a sudden, when I did it in town, like legitimized it and I just think it's, it's silly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a weird thing, you know. Joking aside, we both said that, like people who don't know the business and have sort of their own perception of it. It's like TV equivalent and be like, oh, you're in East End is amazing, if you're not in East End is also, and then you know. So the West End is seen as oh, West End yeah.
Speaker 1:And I agree with you. There's like the quality of the touring productions now and the production values and everything else is is a lot better than it was back in the day, I think, and they're just as good and it's just. It's exactly the same performers. It just happened to have landed that job. Not the West End, however, I think for me, the West End now is more about being able to be employed and be sensual and be able to go home at night.
Speaker 2:And. But that's absolutely fair and valid. But that's a lifestyle thing and not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2:The pinnacle of the. You know, I mean yeah, so the want to be.
Speaker 1:the thing about being the West End now is that it's not me to go. Oh my God, West End is to go. I can go home every night. And it does open some doors because there's certain people that it will have some kudos to it. So, for example, stuff outside you know, if you want to go and do a concert or you want to go and oh, he was a West End star or whatever they, there's more weight to that. Yeah, Because outside of there then you start becomes what shows you've done, if you've done tours, you know so, like I've done Les Mis and Juan's done, like Annie and all that you know.
Speaker 2:and oh, I guess it's our house yeah.
Speaker 1:And I was going to say no, but I mean.
Speaker 2:And you know the kids play.
Speaker 3:You did by yourself in the back garden. What was it?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I have to say I saw our house. I saw our house and you were brilliant in it. You were the best part of that show. And in the show was the show was the cover.
Speaker 3:You were really really it's no kind of yeah, probably I saw it all week because I watched front of house, so I watched every show. Okay, oh nice. Where was that?
Speaker 2:So no, it wasn't the cover that whole week. So a Glasgow.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, glasgow, that was a. I'll tell you something. I think I said this before. In Glasgow I had someone come up to me outside and asked for an autograph and she was like I was, I was at drama school and I'd weeded our house. I mean, she was absolutely hammered and I was like, oh great, and I was thinking of my, said myself like, oh, she must have been a drama. I said, well, how's even out? When she was at drama school she went. I've just left. I was like, oh, I think it was. She must have gone older. I don't know how many, how much like alcohol she'd had in her life or how much how many cigarettes she'd had, but she said it. I said, oh, she was my birthday. They're amazing, yeah, I'm 29. I nearly dropped. She looked about 60 years old.
Speaker 2:That's my lasting memory.
Speaker 3:I was like, oh, my God and my face. But it's a good thing she couldn't see my face registered.
Speaker 2:What the? Oh my Lord yeah.
Speaker 3:So that's my impression of Glasgow for you, but it was lovely.
Speaker 2:Glasgow can be a tough place on people. I'll give you that. Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say like a hard life Hard, 29 years, definitely hard.
Speaker 3:Glasgow is the geographical equivalent of middle age.
Speaker 1:It's just like yeah, Everything.
Speaker 3:Do you think maybe with this All of the four years, I'm wondering if you think, if we think this mode of the week is a bit like a multi-million air saying money doesn't solve all your problems. You come from a position of power and you go. Well, the West End, it's not everything. So once I was in this West End dressing room.
Speaker 1:it's not everything, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's not everything.
Speaker 1:I start my core center job on Monday. I fucking is just.
Speaker 2:No, my point is, my point was especially, I think, that, like I said, I really noticed that on that thing where I had like maybe a couple of months difference between doing what was going on and, like we did, amazing big venues on tour like Blackpool Grand that were like it's like five times the size of the one in town.
Speaker 1:It's got cavernous. Even more cavernous when you've only got 50 audience in it. I did that. Tell me about 50.
Speaker 2:They literally moved everyone to the front.
Speaker 1:50 people and we were like that. We finished the club and it's like really solitary club. Oh my God.
Speaker 3:That's because you did 20 shows a week, though, joseph. It's never going to get an audience with that. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1:Going back to though that though, obviously you are sitting there in the West End and it's great and stuff.
Speaker 1:You're in a great show and we're just in a joking because that's what we do on this podcast. But, like I know, in the last four years, the journey you've been on to get where you are now, do you know what I mean? And that's what people don't realize for all of us, like the amount of struggle, and you had a period of time where you were going up for jobs and you were getting through to finals and then radio silence and then suddenly it would be announced on Twitter who got the parts, and no one even told you you didn't get it or you'd have all these sort of things and you're getting so fine and getting dropped. And then you had periods of time where you weren't even hearing back from your agent and stuff. And there was reasons for that and not in a babble, because I know you're an agent and they're a friend and they're lovely, but it's not been a smooth ride and you've had lots of ups and downs, lots of disappointments and rejections and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1:And then you also had to go and do like fucking night shifts in the bloody in Iceland, in a freezer yeah. Walk into the fridge in the cold and you've had all and the COVID and everything. So it's been a you know. That's why I'm so pleased to you that you're there now. But it's Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's been a journey. It's been a journey, thank you, man.
Speaker 2:And yeah, I mean don't get me wrong, the imposter syndrome is real as well. It's kind of felt like it came a bit out of nowhere, which is obviously the nicest thing in the world, but at the same time it is that this thing of like I have had a bunch of time where I've not been doing it and then all of a sudden it's like a million miles and I were very, very suddenly. Do you know what I mean? But it's amazing and I feel incredibly lucky. The people are amazing. I feel very supported here and you know it's great. But yeah, I appreciate you saying that. Thank you.
Speaker 1:You also. You know so you're in a Western show and we're not. You also get to not live with your partner and not get nagged every day. Which?
Speaker 3:we do.
Speaker 1:I get to starfish and six nights for the week in the bed, but you are paying double rent, so there's a trade off.
Speaker 2:That's true, yeah.
Speaker 1:I am. You have to travel every weekend.
Speaker 3:Rent up north which is essentially like a 10 or a week.
Speaker 1:No, he's in Cheshire. Well, rent up north is a bit.
Speaker 2:But, like the rent up north for my three bedroom house is almost the exact same as it is for my room that I rented in someone else's house in London. It's literally doubled and I've got a garage. I've got really a lot of green space at my house. Three bedroom house I love like detached it's mad.
Speaker 1:We're talking about.
Speaker 2:Here's another one on the list have you?
Speaker 1:saved at least three months salary and savings.
Speaker 3:No yes.
Speaker 1:He's back in the game.
Speaker 3:Yes, welcome to the like expenses, though, so I'm like us there are genuine Family.
Speaker 2:A child of white like a child and I don't find you know a dog that's got epilepsy. Well, I've got the cats very expensive. What's the things going on? So that's your cat.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, yeah, exactly Mine's fine.
Speaker 1:Mine just sits around eating, but yours is yeah after this, after we record the list, I've got to go and pick up some new medication from the Fests for one of them. Yeah, so yeah, brilliant. So you're back.
Speaker 2:Are they doing okay, though, just what we're on, I mean oh yeah, okay, they're getting there.
Speaker 1:We it's tried and error with the two new ones. The original bubs are sitting here just in the window. He's fine, but they're getting there, it's just yeah there's a few. I keep clicking this and that's gonna be really fucking irritating on the edit.
Speaker 3:I've just remembered I was a while with the pen. Sorry, yeah, I stopped great, so have you.
Speaker 1:Oh, here's one. Have you donated blood ever in your life?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah but, not for a really long time, and I was thinking about it recently.
Speaker 1:You're a given person. I don't do it, I'm good.
Speaker 2:No one would have won it anyway.
Speaker 3:No one wants my blood, trust me. It's fine, down on it, it's good.
Speaker 1:It's very dark blood.
Speaker 3:It's a dark, bitter blood. You wouldn't want it.
Speaker 1:Let's move on to another one to see how well we are doing against you, dave. So far is not that well, I'm surprised.
Speaker 3:It's not great, is it? It's not great? No, think about in 10 years, though. His life could have gone down the drain and he might be, like us, positive thinking fingers crossed learning. Haha, sitting there in his dressing room waiting for his singing lesson.
Speaker 1:That's what I like about one he's not bitter.
Speaker 2:No kidding it could all fall apart any minute.
Speaker 1:Make us feel better so what about let's do, let's do two more from this list and we'll see. So obviously, you've been married, had a child, fine, yes, you win on that one. You've been the West End when on that one's. That's three, that's three. No, you haven't saved money like us yet. So that's three, three, one, as if I don't this this thing was supposed to be us versus Dave, right, I feel like you said 38, we've gone right, fuck you, how dare you? The pension A pension?
Speaker 2:yes, because I keep getting emailed about it.
Speaker 1:I didn't you know it's still weird though.
Speaker 2:It keeps going down, though, and then up, and I'll be like great, my pension's going up, and then I don't take anything out of it. It's like all of a sudden I've got less in it. I don't understand how it works at all, but I mean, there's only no, it's high risk.
Speaker 3:Someone's playing with your money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a weird one. I mean there's not much in it, but like I didn't, I didn't actively go out of my way to do it. Someone else must have done it for me my employers.
Speaker 3:Is it a poker stars pension? Is it like a up and down poker game? You just you've just plopped it into the website.
Speaker 2:No, it's like in my and it's in my bank, so it's, I think it's Scottish widows, it must be, but it's like I can see it whenever, because that's only kind of reason that I remember is there, because I'm like, oh yeah, that you know. I'm like, oh great, can I try and take this out now? No, not till you're like 60. Oh great, fine, but now I've got left but I didn't take anything out. So, yes, it was probably one of those variable like Things oh, so it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not the equity one. I thought you're doing equity pension.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, I started.
Speaker 1:I started an equity pension not too long ago, beginning this job, but like it's not that one so for one, I don't, I don't think, I don't think he is gonna be sitting here in 10 years, the same as us.
Speaker 2:With no state pension no, kids no wife. Just a cat.
Speaker 1:Do you remember when we were 23? We were a couple of lads. Remember those days.
Speaker 2:That was 60 years ago, john.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know I was a lad. I was a lad. Look at this. Picture me against a tree when I was 24 Fuck yeah now.
Speaker 1:I just went to a birthday party for an 80 year old At the place I used to work at and I said to him I said you're like two 40 year olds now. I said so when you look at someone our age, do you what do you see, guys? I just see you as like kids. Still. I was just like wow that's nice because like yes, kids, because he's like he's done another 40, well, 30, some odd years on us and 42 years on you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's quite mad, did you say in your face I've got time. No, he's younger, fitter than any of us. That's not good, is it?
Speaker 1:That's not a good thing. Dave, do you have any From your unique vantage point? Do you have any advice for me and one of 40 plus and minus is, on how to stay young and as if we're in our 30s, other than getting a wife and a kid in the West End show?
Speaker 2:well, I mean you're engaged already, but you could just get married, and then you'd be married.
Speaker 1:I'm looking for cheery news, though. What Something to make me feel better.
Speaker 2:I don't feel like I'm a very Good advice, never really a sort of just trying, like you just lead by example.
Speaker 1:Have a positive attitude.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Like you do have that. Yeah, no once, like I'm out.
Speaker 1:It's like having you and one on the same podcast, is literally like having the yin and yang of Positivity, and it worked.
Speaker 3:It works, I enjoy it, I like listening to you, I've got a positive attitude. Dude, I just don't, I don't know outward it's, it's positive about being negative.
Speaker 2:I know, I know I'm gonna fuck everything up. I'm sure of it. Yeah, I think. I think a positive attitude generally helps me, but, like again, everyone's different, so that's not trying to bad badmove anyone else as we've been doing things.
Speaker 1:No, well, listen, I think that's a good way, a good place to finish on. Was it the you and your positive attitude? Because it is actually like one of the things I love about you like you always got that positivity, yours, like you know, really thoughtful and just a generally all-round.
Speaker 3:Top bloke, but where has it got you, though, hey? Hey, look at me, look at my 70s background which you can, because you got a room full of mirrors, because you're in the West End 70s background, as in that's, when he was born in the 70s. So background, I have managed to maintain the decor vintage.
Speaker 1:Where were you? When were you born, then? What's your day of birth?
Speaker 2:86.
Speaker 1:Jun 86. Okay, you're still in a. You're still in 80s, baby. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Which is really weird because the show this show opened like two months after I was born, so I'm always like hell, longs it been on. Oh, what age am I?
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, yeah, one has the same reporting in Bess.
Speaker 3:Carousel.
Speaker 1:But no, if you haven't already. Please go and check out Dave and Sophie's YouTube channel. It's called Sophie and Dave. You won't regret it. It's a great watch, especially if you love Disney stuff. There's a lot of Disney content on there, which is always good. Try and go and see Dave in the show in the West End in Phantom of the Opera playing P&G until July at the moment June, july Hope you don't lie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, july, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1:Hopefully I'll be joining you. Yes, mate, yes, absolutely one in there as well. Come on, it's all day.
Speaker 2:Why not Absolutely? And then we can just apply gas from the dressing room all the time.
Speaker 3:I'll just be like yeah, well, I'll have to become a dresser, basically.
Speaker 2:Why can't you?
Speaker 1:be in Phantom. I don't understand why can't you be in Phantom?
Speaker 3:Oh no, I well. Last time I went for a Phantom audition I was like I'm in the wrong. I'm in the wrong audition here. So I purposely brought the wrong song and sang it in the wrong way.
Speaker 1:So that was good. Another positive story from one.
Speaker 3:That's why I don't get in Black West End. That's why I don't get in yeah yeah, I mean the feedback was really like we really liked him, a really lovely voice. Just, it's not quite right for the show. I was like, yeah, it wouldn't be without the song.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I think he's quite good as a bouquet. He'd be a good bouquet, or one of the managers Could be a bouquet.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I could nod my head, but I don't know. No, that's the Churchill dog.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes, oh yes, oh yes, oh yes.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, oh, Dave, do you have?
Speaker 1:anything else you want to. You want to get people's attention towards before we go Anything. You want to promote Anything. Any books coming out.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, just my success pillars, no joke. Um, no, I'm on socials Generally, at the Dave Modster.
Speaker 1:Um, I think there's underscores will put links in the episode anyway, so you can see that share and stuff.
Speaker 2:Thank you, yeah. So yeah, I just sort of like like to. If you do, fancy seeing me just being generally silly around about show stuff or, you know, with the family and stuff, that's the place to grab me. But no, I think that's you've covered it all.
Speaker 1:Thank you for being our first ever guest. First ever guest.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:We've done it. I say you take it. We were supposed to do this we said we'd do it in season three, and we've done it. So what can you say? You know what I mean. So this will be.
Speaker 2:Correct.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we will obviously speak to you very soon again and we'll get you back on when we're all in the West End. We'll have another in person. One, yeah, absolutely Sounds great, and I would love that One can pop backstage after we finish one of our shows Because you won't want to be in it. I'll bring the wrong songs, I don't.
Speaker 1:And then you can feel the same bitterness that I've felt today the one's like I can't believe you're in the West End. Then he goes oh perps, you took the wrong songs. They don't want to be in it. What? Well, okay, yeah, Well done, yeah.
Speaker 3:I'll do it. I'll do it.
Speaker 2:Thank you Now, Gents, it's been a lovely talk to you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Thanks so much, mate. Have a good singing lesson. Give my love to Claire.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much for coming on, Cheers man, I really appreciate it. Thank you so much, see you later Bye.
Speaker 2:Thank you Bye.
Speaker 1:So there we go, our first ever guest. What a legend. First ever guest.
Speaker 3:yeah, that was Dave from his West End dressing room. No bitterness here.
Speaker 1:No, nothing new at all.
Speaker 3:No nothing, I just love the setting, and you know, yeah, that's it. That's all I've got.
Speaker 1:Generally they're like what a nice bloke for it to happen to them. Yeah, he's so supportive for everyone else. Yeah, I came out at the Dave Monster on Instagram and, as you said before, sophie and Dave on YouTube, and go and see him in Phantom of the Opera in London's glittering West End.
Speaker 3:He is a really lovely guy. It's like, you know, you kind of you see something like you want to dislike someone. I don't really, but you know there's that kind of thing you got now you can't.
Speaker 1:No, you don't.
Speaker 3:There's no way. There's no way to actually dislike him, so I am very happy for his success. That's a genuine thing.
Speaker 1:Finishing off our show. Then we're going to go to our second week of our new feature. So we asked you to get your middle-aged rage into us, your experiences of being middle-aged or approaching middle-aged or leaving middle-aged, whichever it is. We've had some good responses this week. First one is from Mike, who is a regular listener to the show not my stepdad.
Speaker 2:A different one.
Speaker 1:A guy that I used to work with and is used to be in the police and the military and all sorts of things, and his moan is very akin to you, juan, very in line with your usual.
Speaker 3:Here we go. What's this about?
Speaker 1:Well, it's the advent which is a positive thing of these women-only gyms women-only coffee shops, women's supporters, that sort of thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I'm so against all that.
Speaker 1:He thinks that's fine, but he is feeling the kind of adverse effect of this. There's no sort of men-only spaces and safe spaces and that sort of thing, and that's his gripe and you know I can see his point. But I've got some good news for you, mike. If you want to come and join us in the world of musical theatre, I've got many contacts that can get you in touch with men-only bars, men-only gyms, men-only clubs all over the UK and abroad, so do get in touch and I'll put you in contact with some absolutely fantastic men who are all about that.
Speaker 1:So just let me know, yeah, and then. But he does go on to say about the alienation of us middle-aged people, with the youth of today coming through with their apparent silver spoons and amounts and their entitlement to everything.
Speaker 3:It does feel that way. It does feel that way, but I guess it probably did for, like our parents as well Exactly, and that's the thing. But there is an element of the only thing I would say about this, like as much as it feels that way and I'm guilty of it myself like thinking, oh, there is an element of whatever silver spoon, whatever silver spoons they have and whatever entitlement they have.
Speaker 3:We've kind of given it to them. So it's like our fault, isn't it? We walked so they could run, we ran so they could sit. And the thing is more like our parents, to the point I was going to sit in my whole life.
Speaker 1:But you know, on this podcast we believe the children have a future.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1:I can have Moan Ambassadors on this podcast.
Speaker 3:What's peeing in there?
Speaker 1:John, oh shit, it's my phone as well.
Speaker 3:Oh yes, he's got me, if you want to know where it is on your phone, John, I can let you know. There's a little button. Oh, he knows that.
Speaker 1:God one's turning into the 40 plus and minus his tech support.
Speaker 3:If you need any help, just go to me, We'll start with. Have you tried switching it off?
Speaker 1:But yeah, mike, your middle-aged rage. Thank you very much for that and keep them coming. The next one is from your cousin, I believe, isn't it? And do you know what? Give us the load on.
Speaker 3:Maybe we've called it the wrong thing middle-aged rage because it really is like people like ah, fuck you, because we've got my cousin.
Speaker 1:How old is your cousin? How old is your cousin Because Mike, I should say, is similar age to me, so like early 40.
Speaker 3:My cousin, is like four months older than me, Jesus. Yeah, well, I say we're very kind of similar in that humor and everything like that.
Speaker 1:One foot in the craze, yeah.
Speaker 3:So she's dealing with fucking snowflakes. I'm going to read it out directly in a work setting that. I'll think they deserve promotions that have been victimized by everything, even though they're already overpaid and underworked.
Speaker 2:Wow, oh, look at that.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm not sure what we've started with this middle-aged rage thing we're just always doing this, proving that our generation are bigoted.
Speaker 3:Misreble bastards.
Speaker 1:Uncompromising, miserable, stuck in the past, bastards.
Speaker 3:But again, all that kind of stuff, though, is something we have created, so if that is happening, it's because we've allowed it to happen through.
Speaker 1:That's how a lot of the current generations see our generation. You've done all this and maybe they've got a point.
Speaker 3:I mean they might have a point but at the same time, like anything, right, if you know it's happening, fucking change it.
Speaker 1:Fuck me that cat on your mug looks just like you.
Speaker 3:That cat.
Speaker 1:He's got the hat on, he's got the grumpy face Grumpy as fuck.
Speaker 3:Oh, you know what? I didn't even notice. That's a little bit odd. So you know, we all can see this, but the cat has the cat's blanket has got around itself is exactly the pattern of blanket that I currently have in my bed. I know he really does. It's a really grumpy cat.
Speaker 1:It's a Christmas mug, oh it's a Christmas mug, is it? I didn't get that from the Christmas hat on the snow, did you not?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah yeah, he doesn't just live in Norway or something Like it is actually.
Speaker 1:I suppose that is for the benefit of the listeners. But I was like, yeah, I get that it's a Christmas.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was telling. Obviously, I see, you can see it Otherwise there's real problems like coughs affecting your eyes. Speaking of which, someone at work and soldiers got the same cough and it ended up with Halloween eyes. They look amazing. I don't think she's very happy about it. We're like proper blood seeping in like a horror film. It's great.
Speaker 1:Well, there'll be just in time for the fucking Halloween products in the shops. Probably it's about time it goes in. That's still gizzing. That's my middle age Rage. I'm still getting it Every time I walk in a supermarket. Or the bloody Easter shit. Yeah, I know, but Aldi and Lidl don't have that much of it. I quite like them for that.
Speaker 3:Okay, they do have pancake day stuff coming out, which, like I'm all right with that. Yeah, fine, that's in two weeks, three weeks, I know it's not a massive event, but like it's not like Jesus died eating a pancake or something and that's how you have pancake day, but it is like I would have no issue with.
Speaker 1:I'd have no issue with. Pancake day finishes at the day after pancake day. Here's Easter stuff. Yeah, I agree, Because no problem.
Speaker 3:Who's going to buy an Easter egg now and not going to eat it though. Are they like you're going to buy and keep it. So what's the difference in buying it? No, they don't. Three weeks.
Speaker 1:I was in there today and I was stood in the aisle where all this Easter stuff was because I was looking at something else that was in the aisle and I'm refusing to buy any of it. I remember there's a text that says the other day, because she bought some and she was like I love it, it tastes great. I was like no you're going against it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they were there and they're just picking up their little bags of mini eggs and their Easter eggs and stuff. They're not buying it for and saving it, they're just eating them as their evening snack.
Speaker 3:But are mini eggs, are they? I know they are Easter technical, don't they sell us all year round anyway?
Speaker 1:Kind of but oh no, I'm not having it, I'm not having it Well, okay.
Speaker 3:Well, we're on this. We'll get this when we get to Easter, but it's just a quick one. What's your favorite? Cabry's cream egg. And there's a few different choices now. Like, like all the cabbries eggs, they've got the white one, the normal one, caramel egg Actually, not just cabbries, like lint eggs, the whole lot Caramel egg, the caramel egg it is. It's got to be right. Yes, it's got some heft to it. You know you're gonna have a heart attack when you have those. It's that kind of feel about it. I love it.
Speaker 1:But it's not as sugary. Sweet as it is. If you've had a battered cream egg in Scotland, oh my fucking god, that is the most sweet thing I've ever tasted in my entire life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have. Yeah, it was good. It was good, but it was hefty.
Speaker 1:When I first toured in Scotland in Edinburgh, dundee, that sort of thing I did the whole. Oh my god, we're gonna get battered this, but in all the novelty things, because they batter pizza and ice cream and cheeseburgers everything, Deep fried Mars bar.
Speaker 3:it's one of the best things I've ever had.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's amazing. But I thought deep fried cream egg, that's the dream. And I bought it and I ate it and halfway through I was like I cannot finish this. It's too sweet, it's too sick and sweet.
Speaker 3:It's a lot, isn't it? It is a lot. I've had to share the deep fried Mars bar, and I mean I could eat a Mars bar easily, but that's a party, that's a party.
Speaker 1:That's a Mars bar party. But then they've disappeared, haven't they? Everybody's always going on about people having Mars bar parties.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what was that? Look at that. What's a Mars bar party, remind me.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It wasn't a Mars bar party. I can't remember that.
Speaker 3:I can't remember that. Should we look it?
Speaker 1:up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm gonna look it up now Are you looking up again, Of course we owe it to the listeners. We do.
Speaker 1:What is, what was? Should we say what was?
Speaker 2:What was A Could still be.
Speaker 1:Mars bar party. God, should I be searching this on my own normal internet? I was gonna say All right, well, oh, here we go. Urban dictionary, there's the one, okay, so wow, wow, I mean just get to the point. Mars Bar Party, where a girl shoves a Mars bar in her pussy and a guy eats it out.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, I thought it might be a bit more of a no and then another one.
Speaker 1:get a gay house, party or similar base, basically a gay orgy. Tend to find them in the coastal towns of Britain such as Brighton, bournemouth, hartlepool and Seaburn, and it says, as an example, cory and Randy great name went to a Mars Bar Party up the headland in Hartlepool. They took sausage up the exit hole all night. And that's by Southern in the north, July 29, 2004. I have to also say that it has received 46 likes and 177 dislikes. So whether that's true or not?
Speaker 3:Yeah, now I can definitely say I've never been to a Mars Bar Party, and now I'm relatively grateful that I haven't. John's still thinking about it.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, I've definitely not.
Speaker 3:I've definitely not what do you say You're searching where the nearest one is? You kind of went blank for a second Look at the screen. Are you essentially?
Speaker 1:No, no, I was about to say I've definitely not been to the latter, but I've inadvertently attended one of the former in, but it isn't you know. Various, various confectionary items rebels, one of them rebels party once and I'll leave that there. Yeah, I think we're so anyway, the let's move on to the final middle age rage from was to. Actually it's from a good friend of ours and listeners to the podcast but I'm going to change their name for anim and anonymity purposes.
Speaker 3:I'm the good, I'm not going to say the name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for yeah, I've lost all power as the speech.
Speaker 3:And non-limiting. I'm having a stroke.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that one. So let's call this person Drew. Okay, drew Peacock. Sure, that's a good name, drew Peacock. And their middle age rage is two parts. One is getting up repeatedly in the night to have a wee all of a sudden, which I don't suffer from.
Speaker 3:I know at the moment. Yeah, I'm pleased about that.
Speaker 1:at the moment, I'm sure that will happen once the prostate starts to enlarge. And then the second one is the inconsistency of the morning glory, Like sometimes it's there and then there's days where it's not, and Drew Drew Peacock misses that sensation in the mornings, and so now he just listens to his Oasis albums when he gets up. Do you suffer with an inconsistent morning glory?
Speaker 3:I mean, I can't say I really keep track of it, so it just goes by a noticed. I don't know. That's the honest truth.
Speaker 1:It's not something I've ever really thought about so well, I guess whatever's happening, if you get up in the morning you've got a rage and boner. You must know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I've never kind of like, I've never really paid any attention, so it's not like I'm kind of going. I guess, whatever's happening, nothing's changed as far as I'm aware, so it's not obvious to me.
Speaker 1:When you get up in the morning with morning glory and you need to go to the toilet, it's a bit of a logistical adjustment to actually not you know you must be aware of it, then I know for a fact that I would say now I'm in my 40s, I don't consistently wake up in that situation, but I definitely haven't vacated that space, do you?
Speaker 3:know what? I'll keep an eye on it.
Speaker 1:I'll let you know If I fall in that bed in the morning. I know it's not happened.
Speaker 2:Don't wake up my backside brushing the ceiling.
Speaker 1:I know you can guarantee if there's a knock on the door with a delivery. I've got one.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Because it's normally my takeaway. No, I'm joking. No because it's always when you don't need it. It raises its head. I was going to say there you go, but yeah, well thanks Drew Peacock for a. Thank you, drew, thank you Drew, thank you. What's your cousin called?
Speaker 3:Alison, she would mind yeah.
Speaker 1:Alison and Mike, thank you for your middle-aged rage. Get those into us on our social media and at our email address, which is 40 plus and minuses at gmailcom, and I'll just double check that because I always get it wrong.
Speaker 3:It's 40 plus and minuses.
Speaker 1:That's good to say. That was the original one we put on there. Yeah, so 40, 40 plus PLUS and minuses at gmailcom 40 plus and minuses at gmailcom. Or contact us on our Instagram or, if you know us in person, send us a WhatsApp, whatever. Get your middle age rage into us and we'll get you on the air, just like Drew and Mike and all our other bigoted middle-aged people. They're fighting.
Speaker 3:Like Alison. Oh, we love it because we're all thinking it.
Speaker 1:Anyway, Juan, I'm off to lie down and rest my lungs. I think you should definitely and dream of waking up with an erect penis. Goodbye, Okay. Am I going to finish it on that? I can't, Okay, fine.