Have you ever woken up one morning, looked in the mirror, and thought, "When did I get old?" You're not alone. Join us, two 40-somethings, in a frank and hilarious discussion about the realities of aging and the trials and tribulations of adulthood. We chat about our changing confidence, life milestones, and even some of our destructive life patterns.
Ever wonder why we become more assertive as we age? Is it wisdom or just having less patience for nonsense? We'll share our thoughts on this, as well as how we navigate conflicts and communicate more assertively without bottling up emotions. We'll also share some laughs as we talk about our frustrations with tire replacements, encounters with cyclists, and even our calm and talented vet who might just be a secret serial killer.
Wrapping it up, we'll address our anxieties around dressing for social events and the unrealistic standards set by fashion models. We'll vent about our struggles with playing sports and the challenge of finding a balance between being assertive and avoiding conflict. And of course, we'll share our moment of the week and the ups and downs of maintaining coolness as we age. So buckle up and join us on this wild ride through life in our 40s. It's not always pretty, but it's definitely entertaining.
Please rate and share this episode if you enjoyed it. This really helps us grow the pod!
If you have any questions for us, please email: 40plusandminuses@gmail.com
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Have you ever woken up one morning, looked in the mirror, and thought, "When did I get old?" You're not alone. Join us, two 40-somethings, in a frank and hilarious discussion about the realities of aging and the trials and tribulations of adulthood. We chat about our changing confidence, life milestones, and even some of our destructive life patterns.
Ever wonder why we become more assertive as we age? Is it wisdom or just having less patience for nonsense? We'll share our thoughts on this, as well as how we navigate conflicts and communicate more assertively without bottling up emotions. We'll also share some laughs as we talk about our frustrations with tire replacements, encounters with cyclists, and even our calm and talented vet who might just be a secret serial killer.
Wrapping it up, we'll address our anxieties around dressing for social events and the unrealistic standards set by fashion models. We'll vent about our struggles with playing sports and the challenge of finding a balance between being assertive and avoiding conflict. And of course, we'll share our moment of the week and the ups and downs of maintaining coolness as we age. So buckle up and join us on this wild ride through life in our 40s. It's not always pretty, but it's definitely entertaining.
Please rate and share this episode if you enjoyed it. This really helps us grow the pod!
If you have any questions for us, please email: 40plusandminuses@gmail.com
Follow us at the following @40plus_and_minuses_podcast
One episode, two already. Just sing away.
Speaker 1:I love that we said this series. He said oh, should we not mention episode numbers? Then we can switch them around.
Speaker 2:Both episodes have got an episode. One episode it's useless. You know what? It was so long ago that we said that I can't even fucking remember.
Speaker 1:Jesus Christ. But yeah, we're back. 40 Paso Manatees, season three. If you haven't listened to us before, we are two. 47.
Speaker 2:Legends mates Okay, mates, yeah sure.
Speaker 1:We've been friends since we were like early to mid-20s, been through quite a few scrapes and we just realised we got to our 40s and we done fuck all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just nothing. We have achieved some things, but based on the list we did in season one.
Speaker 1:We've done things like have you ever put your trousers on?
Speaker 2:Have you combed it out? I tell you what on that I was. There's a girl at my work, right? She just started working there and I was chatting away to her and I had to put in her form, like it's a gym, as we know. I had to put in her form because she's a staff member. I know right at the beginning.
Speaker 2:Too for two it makes sense as to why I know this. So I looked down at her address and I was like wait, we've basically got the same postcode. I said where do you live? She said I was just across there. I was like oh, and then she told me she's like yeah, we were waiting for the house to get done up for months and I realised I was like, oh, wait, you live on the corner on that next to the pub. Yeah, it's like great. So this house has been done up and I was thinking, oh man, that's going to be so nice, just like a cottage. Well, that's going to be really nice. I wish I could afford to put it down on that, maybe some point, because actually that kind of house she's 26,. Her and her fiance put it down, bought the house, done it up. I was like you fucker, like 26 years old. I was like you're already ahead of me. The funny thing as well. Do you know where she's from? Right, henley, I?
Speaker 1:was like do you go to the Regatta? I was like, I love it.
Speaker 2:I went, oh okay, I said let me guess your boyfriend's a rower. Yeah yeah, he was in the Olympic team. I was like, cool Right, we can't talk anymore.
Speaker 1:That's the end of that.
Speaker 2:I went. No, come back.
Speaker 1:Zero reference points.
Speaker 2:Nothing in common. You've got a house, you live in Henley, you love boats, your boyfriend's an Olympian Fuck off.
Speaker 1:That I mean, yeah, it is. That's the whole point. We've done this, though. We joke around about it and stuff and it's funny. But we're in our mid 40s and we're just laughing like we're not meeting the stereotypes, to kind of the status quo of what you should be doing. But there's plenty of people at our age and older that haven't got houses, haven't got kids you know it's not, we're not that unusual but Haven't got long left to live. Honestly, though, a lot of people have been passing away recently well, lots of people pass away every day but it's a significant people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but significant people and I'm starting to see a pattern of like it's normally like late 70s, early 80s around there somewhere, and you start thinking, oh, okay, cool. That means, like you know, 40s, 45, 50 years at best. Yeah, best, best, best. And you think, but they're also not going to be like fully quality years, are they? Then again you look at, if you see, I mean I don't watch it, but my Mrs watches I don't watch it anymore.
Speaker 2:I used to, but Connexionately.
Speaker 1:No, strictly condensing Right. Angela Rippon's on there, right yeah.
Speaker 2:Remember her yeah.
Speaker 1:She's 83. She is like, no, she's 79, 80, 80, whatever, she is 79, but oh my God, she's like full on leg extensions, dancing, like she's doing like full on rehearsals and I'm like fair play to her man, it's actually really impressive. You think Jesus, you're like still that age and going and you know all these like Leslie, joseph Leslie. Joseph yeah.
Speaker 2:I do show Leslie Joseph. Tom Jones is still going to touring Elton John.
Speaker 1:All these people they're like they're, you know they're really and they're still out there. So you think actually it doesn't make you all just because you're that age and you don't have to give into it, you know.
Speaker 2:No, although my knees telling me otherwise.
Speaker 1:But that's fine, yeah, I'm fucked and I've definitely given into it. But you don't have to.
Speaker 2:You don't have to. No, you don't have to, but we have. We have but you don't have to. Yeah, just putting the hope out there.
Speaker 1:Do we say not we do. I mean, I was thinking about that the other day, actually about like confidence. Now you're wearing our forties, in terms of how it's increased, but also how it's like decreased.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Do you see anything?
Speaker 2:I'm confident I can do things, and then my body tells me I can't. I lose confidence when I try and do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm confident. If you give me enough time, I'll fuck it all up. Yeah, absolutely. If you give me like a shit ton of money today, I'm confident within a year or two and I'll fuck all again, absolutely, absolutely. I'm good at that.
Speaker 2:I'm confident that my patterns in life are destructive, so it's good now. But I mean like, yeah, we've touched on it before, haven't we? You're confident, I guess you're more confident in certain things. You've experienced them more, so you kind of get things, you don't have to think about things as much, and you're certainly less confident in other things, like Do you know what?
Speaker 1:I'll tell you something. I'll just add a thought, then, because two of my ex-girlfriends listen to this podcast quite on a regular basis. They would have experienced me when I was younger and stuff as a student and pre-student and I obviously struggled with money then. Back then I also had full-on debts. I had like fucking letters after me.
Speaker 1:I don't mean in terms of being a vet or something. I mean as in like debt collection, all that sort of stuff. I was in a financial pickle or everything, which is one way of putting it. I'm so much better with my money now. I've learned quite a lot of lessons, yet I'm still fucking like on the edge and going, oh fucking hell. I'm having like peeps and troughs with it all and stuff and I'm thinking they must listen to this and think, jesus Christ, we know that guy.
Speaker 2:I've never heard we're getting flashbacks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, oh, he hasn't fucking changed. Then I have, I fucking have. That's the problem. That's what annoys me. I have changed, but I just Well the promise. You can do, you can go right, that's it.
Speaker 2:I've learned from my mistakes. I won't do that anymore. But you screwed yourself over so much. The hole is so deep that you're having to claw your way out first before you can get back to neutral right.
Speaker 1:But I did get rid of all that stuff and I'm fine. I'm not necessarily like in debt or anything, but it was just kind of before it was like I was in debt, I hadn't paid bills. I was all over the place with. Now on the hole I'm a lot better, but it's like. It's like it's the nature of the work I'm doing now.
Speaker 1:I'm still up and down and stuff and I'm sort of like chosen in the last couple of years to not do the nine to five full-time things I did for the five years previous because I'd had enough of it. That's had an impact.
Speaker 2:let's say there's no gigs with me, so you're working the staples. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1:Sorry, there's no shifts at this point. Brilliant, great, that's fine, I'll find it from somewhere. What can I sell? Not myself, because no one's going to want that we discussed your concept and only fans. I am tempted to, though, just to see. We should do it, and see if we get any fucking, if we get money out of it. You don't have to show our faces or anything. No what would we show? Feet, feet. My knees, hobbit feet, my dodgy knee We've both got hobbit feet.
Speaker 2:This is true, yeah.
Speaker 1:We could do an OnlyFans and call it, like Frodo and Sam, onlyfans and just have it on their feet. Hello, a different way of testing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a different way of testing. Yeah, hairy hobbit feet, let's do it.
Speaker 1:Oh, mate, but then again, that's the thing for confidence, these youngsters. Now they go right.
Speaker 2:okay, I'm getting my OnlyFans and I'm going to show the world what I've got these youngsters. It's like you're not an anti, it is true, but it's just funny how it's.
Speaker 1:But the thing I look with today, who's like the two girls that work. I got them really well, were all really close and worked together. They're like half my age, and that's the thing. When you're talking, though, I do sometimes struggle not to think about that, cause I think you, you know, cause you sometimes have a banter and you sort of think, oh, I don't want to, I can't say too, I can't be that.
Speaker 1:But because they think oh God, some fucking old bloke. No, I don't mean like sexual right there, I'm just. I'm just mean in terms of like I dunno, you just they sort of like you get on well with people. They're thinking, they're all thinking, oh God, you're just looking at his like older bloke, thinking like yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, other, there's limitations, right, but I don't feel sometimes In your head.
Speaker 1:You're like, Justin, you're on a pie. You're like, you know, you put the back of your 20s. You're like, yeah, we're all having a great laugh. We're like, yeah, it's a nice old guy, that guy.
Speaker 2:Just let me get my knee strap on. Let's go out. There's a. Sometimes I'm signing people up right Into work and so you're putting all the details on the on the computers and stuff and you look down and you look at the date with a born, birth date. I have to take a double take. And what, you're born when, 2007. What, yeah? And I go wait. So you're oh, you're 16. Oh, great. And then I write it down as, like fucking hell, 2007. How's that? Even a date you were born? That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Well, 2005 is an 18 year old now, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2:I let's say something when I was working at one of the other gyms you had to do a lot of the youngest members are 11. So you have to do these like inductions I think I talked about it before of like 11 year olds into the gym, you come in and they give you the date of birth and as it comes up, I'm like right, so you were, so right so you were. How are you? So? You were born in April 2012. What April 2012. How's that possible? How's that a date? How are you not still like?
Speaker 1:But if you think, about it when we met and then when we were sort of having our I've been said before our summer of 69. Sometimes literally.
Speaker 2:Wait, hang on. Clarify, not with each other, not with each other.
Speaker 1:No, no, that's a different podcast, lucky now.
Speaker 2:I haven't joined in with you.
Speaker 1:That's a revelation for the podcast, jesus Christ, but it's, but? That was 2003, wasn't it? Yeah, and now a baby that was born in that summer is now 20 years old. Jesus Christ, it's just crazy, isn't it? I know. But hey, well, like the girls we were trying to pull then are the age now that the babies were. No, it doesn't make sense. I'm not trying to say that, like the baby, the kids, what am I trying to say? How do I say?
Speaker 2:it. The girls we were trying to pull then could have had the babies at the same age now, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thanks, something like that that makes some more sense. That's horrendous. The girls that we were trying to pull then would now be the same age now that they were when they were babies. Then when? What? What's that Like any fucking sense? Yeah, you're right. So we could have got with a girl of 20 years old then and we were like 20. I was 23, so that wouldn't have been too weird, and we could have gone a bit wrong and got them pregnant and then now have a 20-year-old child.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's alright, but then it's not that.
Speaker 1:Is it that? I mean? There's people listening to it. It's probably the same age as us, who have kids and go yeah, I've got like 24-year-olds. It's this normal, because people do have kids in their 20s.
Speaker 2:Well, it's normal, yeah, it is normal. It's normal for them, it's just normal for us.
Speaker 1:We can have a 20-year-old because we haven't had kids yet.
Speaker 2:But yeah, because it does feel weird when you haven't done it right. It's like you know.
Speaker 1:It does, yeah, Anyway, back to the confidence thing. So hit me with it. What are you more confident with now? You know you're in your 40s.
Speaker 2:What are you? Not going through Well. I mean, we've spoken at this many times. There's various things I'm more confident about.
Speaker 1:You work at a gym. There's a circumstance.
Speaker 2:I work at a gym. Confident, I work at the gym for the moment, that's what we spoke about many times. What am I confident with, I guess? So I've never had a problem speaking my mind, but I usually had to be kind of pushed to it a little bit. So if someone like, if I felt I was slightly wronged, or someone spoke down to me like you may as well have, like you know, stabbed my entire family, I responded with that kind of like.
Speaker 1:Hey, you do go quite.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's quite I go like I'm, like, I'm sorry, what did you say? Like, if I feel like they're totally down to me. That's it. I destroy their lives.
Speaker 1:If you're in like a court of law.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you've been in a fight, your response would be deemed as excessive force.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 2:I would say I might as well. They provoked me, so I ripped apart their entire lives. That's basically what happens. Yeah, what did they do? Well, they spoke down to me.
Speaker 2:So I destroyed their entire family. I think that was probably about right, but like so, I've never had a problem in that sense. But I've noticed that now I do it without the same kind of like anger and it's just like I'm just happy. I just won't take anything anymore in the same way. So if someone says something, I'll just go like, yeah, but actually you're wrong, Regardless.
Speaker 1:I'll just speak up.
Speaker 2:Not in like a horrible way, whereas before I would have taken it a lot and then eventually snapped and gone hang on a minute, hope you all die, like now. I just like I just kind of speak up a bit more and I don't think I take things quite as personally either as I did before Some things, but most things I've just kind of like not quite as bad.
Speaker 1:I always tried to as a person in general and the widest. I mean with people I know and certain people, whatever. But in general I've tried to avoid conflict I'm not a massive fan of it and try and keep a peace and just be like yeah whatever, and you know sort of like and see whatever.
Speaker 1:But I'm definitely got more confidence now to speak my mind and to stand up for myself. But then I still have moments where I revert back to my old self. But then now that fucking irks me so much more than when I did that to myself. I don't know why am I letting that person get away with that? But then the problem is when you're someone like me and pass, that's done that. When you do, then speak up. People go, oh, fucking all right mate.
Speaker 1:Fucking you. Suddenly you look at you being excessive. But yeah, now definitely speaking your mind, I'd have the confidence in your convictions to go. Nah, I'm not taking that.
Speaker 2:Well, we've also. This is a thing we've also got to be a bit careful, like in, anyone will know I mean guys generally do. But you'll know this, if you're like a bigger guy especially, yeah, you have to be a little bit careful in the way you word things because you can get away with it. Like you know, women on the whole can kind of say a lot and guys maybe don't look particularly threatening necessarily, but if you're someone who's like just naturally bigger, there is an element of like.
Speaker 2:I have to be a bit careful about how I say this, because you don't want to come across in that way. So it's always that balance, trying to find that balance, you know. But I think as I've got older, I think because maybe do I seem myself a less of a threat, maybe I don't know, maybe people think I'm a bit old and I'm less of a threat, so maybe I don't know what it is, but I don't mind speaking up as much. I'm just going to say well, this is the true thing, that's that I'm not being aggressive, I'm just like well, you know, you know this age what the consequences are like.
Speaker 1:But when you're young you think oh, if I say that, what, what?
Speaker 1:no, you just go nothing's really going to happen. They're just going to be annoyed at you for an hour and then you've whatever. I mean, when I play football last yeah, not one I didn't go last week week before there was a so I've been going to this football, as I said to you in the last episode, and you know I'm six foot two, I'm a big guy and I'm a big unit, as they say, and Timber on me and I haven't played football for a while, though, and I'm getting like garage off the ball and I just didn't feel strong.
Speaker 2:And then hey, mls, key bit like a rugby player, falls over like a footballer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, and so you know. But you know you're running because it's like seven the side, there's like stuff all around that boards on the side, so it's continuous, and so when you're running into the corner it's a bit like ice hockey in a way, like you have to sort of shield the ball and try and get it off, and I was just getting knocked off it like thinking fuck you, now what? And then obviously that made me sort of like nervous. Like when the ball came near me I was sort of thinking, shit, I gotta get out of my feet quickly. And you know you don't feel like you've got that kind of you know, agility and timing. So you sort of get a bit nervy on the ball. And it's a really winding map because when I played football before I was always going in for the challenge and you know I sort of was different person on the football pitch and also because it's like the man versus football thing and I'm sort of thinking, oh, it's just supposed to be like I'm all here to lose weight. I started this mindset of like you know, if I was playing for a level aside team and then we play another town or something, you just go right, fucking get in because you've got to have. That's how you do it. But in that I was thinking, oh, I don't want, you know, you don't want to go into hard stuff and but everyone's fucking flying in and pushing each other off and it's all going.
Speaker 1:So this last game I played, I turned up, but I didn't really fucking shit time. That week I put on a little bit of weight I think 0.3 of a kilogram or something. So I didn't lose weight and I stood there and I didn't want to fuck it. I just stayed away from the team. I just stood there on my own, just thinking fucking. I thought, right, I'm not having this, I'm going to go on this fucking pitch and I'm going to fucking give it. I went on there and I literally just started straight away. I got I had like quite a few man on the match nominations because at the end of the wheel trying to save a man the match, and that's a few nice comments, because I was just really fucking hell bent on just putting in a shift.
Speaker 1:And the first guy who came up to me in the corner, I held him off with one arm and actually got him away, but he then clattered into the boards because he was like fucking, oh, red fucking, and he really hurt himself. He was hobbling around. So there was this moment where he was hobbling across the pitch and everyone stopped to sit because they thought he was going off. And then the team were like what are you fucking doing? And they're like, and then I thought Dan, he was like a bit lary at times on the pitch and stuff, and he was like we're fucking waiting to see if he's going off. And they said well, fucking, and they start. And they literally lost it. They were like so hot headed, they were like fucking, come on. And then literally like headbutt and each other like that and I had done these going fucking day, I fucking day, I fucking all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 1:And I normally would get involved in that and try and split up. And then our captain ran on there trying to. You know, it all got really fucking heated. It's all started from my challenge really, but I didn't get involved and I didn't really think about it until just now, because I was thinking, because I don't know them all that well yet and stuff, and I was thinking I was just almost like a servant they go. What the fuck has happened there and I actually probably should have gotten in help. But I think sometimes you can get too many people involved and it kicks off more. But but yeah, I was just thinking I've sort of grown the confidence to now go on there and actually just put a bit of more, a bit more in and not worry about it.
Speaker 2:Did you feel better for?
Speaker 1:doing it. I felt fucking great for doing it Because I felt like that's who I used to play like and that's that. And also I think you know you're going into this. It's a lot of local people and stuff. You don't want to sort of like you don't know who's playing in these teams and stuff. You fucking rubbed someone up the wrong way and they're fucking some local nutter or something. Just think I don't know like it, shouldn't think like that. But sometimes you think, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2:We had this conversation in the week, didn't we? That happened to me at kickboxing, Like that's right about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Jesus Christ, so like.
Speaker 2:I like obviously I've been doing this since I was like seven years old. Like I used to do a lot of competitions and you know I'm I was very good when I was younger and I'm still pretty, a pretty good standard. Like I'm a very I would say I'm a very good standard for like club level and I was, we were doing sparring. So for me I've been doing it so long I take on the like more of the teaching kind of mental things. I've got some of those young Mr.
Speaker 1:Miyagi.
Speaker 2:They're pretty good, mr Miyagi. Exactly we get them to wax on, wax off and I say, thanks, my legs look great, I get a. I I want to call it yeah. So I was like I do really like sparring, I don't want to. I had one kid who was 16. So he had that, so that kind of they had that drive and that like I'm going to do it. I'm like he was laying into me and I was just thinking, hang on a minute, can you not tell that I'm holding back here? And I started trying to hold back. So I said, hit me a little bit harder. And then again and I was hitting him basically at will, but I hit him a little bit harder and all it was doing was encouraging him, like he was just going, yeah, yeah. Once I whacked him in the face with my foot and I said to him oh, sorry, Sorry about that, because I did hit him hard, that I meant to anyway, no, it's fine, that's what it's all about. I was like, oh god, here we go. And then. So then the main instructor's actually had to speak to him and say look, you understand that one's holding back and that's why blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:I was a bit annoyed at myself as well. I was thinking. Part of me was like, yeah, it's good I've got this control now I don't kind of have to do it. The other part of me was like, if you'd have met me even 10 years ago, I'd have knocked seven bells at you in this thing just to teach you a lesson and I thought is that a good thing or is it a bad thing? I've lost the confidence to do it, or I gained the confidence to kind of just go. Do you know what I don't need to do? That blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you gain the knowledge. It's martial arts as well. You're supposed to have that control. I know that's what that's as a 16 year old. He doesn't have. But you, sometimes you give a smack around here, just do it, so you know, don't they.
Speaker 2:Well, I did, but then he just like he rocked him a bit but he just kind of got encouraged about. I was like I'm either going to have to like really hit him hard, practically lay him out, or I'm just going to take some of these hits and have a discussion afterwards.
Speaker 1:While it's your knowledge and wisdom as a grandmaster.
Speaker 2:Jedi, that you didn't. It is thank you, yeah, yeah, and then I just, you know, ah, talking of that Completely fucking tangent again.
Speaker 1:But so as part of this whole journey of like with the cats and in and out of the vets and stuff, there's this one, there's this one dude, like he's a vet, our local vets, or one of them and he seems to always do like the night.
Speaker 1:Then, yeah, he's three put the right career and anyway, he's he always. So this, this one place, is like 24 hours, so they they've got appointments till six and they close the send. But you can take emergencies in and they have Things. The animals stay in there overnight and everything else. And one night we had so many issues with one of our cats and so we rang him up and said, look, you know, he's been really really. Or what do we do about the medication? Should we still give it? Should we? And this guy was just like, he spoke to us on the phone and we just come both, come up on the phone. We went, can. Now, that was quite he's really thought, calm this down, like a great you know. We went panicking but it was just like, okay, great, yeah, anyway, a couple of weeks later we had to then take the other one in who'd ripped his feed into, out of his neck, like. So we took him in as a you know to get that Taking that properly and stuff.
Speaker 1:And we met this guy in person. He came in the room and we're like, oh, that's just put a face to the name. I'm not joking. I've never met anyone with such a fucking complete persona, calm, zen it. You just you look at me, think you fuck her. Like literally got his shit together like a Jedi master, like literally you come in, you know you don't need to worry you, but I don't need to worry, okay, yeah, he's like and I've spoken to a lot of the other vets and nurses and receptionists there since about a make a joke About. They're like yeah, it's just how he is. I spoke to one the other day yesterday. She went yeah, should I trained with him? She said he's always been like that. He's going out one of the nurses here and she said that he's like that at home as well. Nothing ever flaps him. He's doing like multiple things at once and everything's just very calm. He gets it all done. I'm like Fucking hate.
Speaker 2:Let's not get him on this, then like fuck off.
Speaker 1:No, how old is?
Speaker 2:he.
Speaker 1:He's got to be. I reckon he's 30s in his 30s, mid 30s, but fuck off, he's just got. He's just you know. He's one of these people you say you've got your shit together and he's probably got. He's probably a serial killer, john.
Speaker 2:He's probably a serial killer. Yeah, he might be like Dexter. Yeah, you see he might be. Just the reason he's so calm is because he's killing people on the side, which keeps him calm. That's why he works the night shift. That's why he works the night shift. He likes animals, hates people. I can relate, I'm with him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, does he need an apprentice?
Speaker 2:Does he need any hell getting rid of the body? Um I?
Speaker 1:could be like an eagle character. Yes, master.
Speaker 2:Can we put requests? Where would you like the body? Yeah, I know this guy plays cricket is prick. Yeah take a request.
Speaker 2:Dialer killer but, um, yeah, so there is that. I mean, yeah, I don't know, I'll tell you, I'll tell you something just on the base of the same thing was saying one thing I don't have confidence in and it's been a while since this Part of me doesn't care any of the part of me, because I go out with a stylist, it's fashion. I honestly, I look, I look at my wardrobe and it's just like I don't, I don't really know what's there.
Speaker 1:We spoke about this, but on on a one of those unsuccessful video ones, didn't we? I remember I think I don't yeah because I was telling you what I reckon you'd you would wear. You got annoyed.
Speaker 2:What is it?
Speaker 1:Black t-shirt I said you know, you say you have cargo shorts on some kind of brown sort of leather trainer and a t-shirt and a giley. Yeah, yeah yeah, if I was going out. Yeah, but I said if you go, now you'd have trousers or jeans, a shirt and maybe a jacket and a nice pair of shoes I'd describe as most guys, I guess, but it's not really that.
Speaker 2:It's the kind of it's because some of some of, like my girlfriend's friends Sorry, what's that how you thinking about it?
Speaker 1:I'm just thinking of helenny again.
Speaker 2:What is my girlfriend's friends?
Speaker 1:No, no, no friends, to your girlfriend's friends, right, they look lovely, but like Knowing you so well as I do is in that scene was like hilarious.
Speaker 2:I just imagine like, basically it's like me imagine someone just going out and like a pair of I guess it's the equivalent of someone like wearing like Bermuda shorts. I'm like you know.
Speaker 1:It was like it was like the royal balcony in a big ceremony and then barry chuckle pops up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's basically that. That's me. In that scenario, I like my girlfriend's always like no, it's fine, you look really good on the prom, is like yeah, you say that, but yeah, because she's dressed you, she's one of my dressers. But it's like when the, when the texts go around saying from the guys saying buying my outfit today, I'm like fucking hell, what do you mean? Like and they're excited about buying their outfit.
Speaker 1:I'm like that one, that one guy that she's friends with, like he's proper into his fashion. But so much that so much that like I can't quite handle how much.
Speaker 2:He's a really lovely guy, but like, yeah, I know, yeah.
Speaker 1:He looks like a lovely guy as well, but he's that fit. I was like I couldn't. I just couldn't wear that.
Speaker 2:No, it's a it's. It takes a certain type of person to be able to pull that off.
Speaker 1:I am not that person.
Speaker 2:You know, Any any kind of attempt to get me anywhere near that isn't going to work. But like, yeah, so with with fashion, like you kind of think you're all right, like, yeah, I just put this on, wear but this, and when you were around people who are really into fashion and it's that talk about stuff, you just go. A I don't have a fucking clue. B I don't care. But see, I'm like, if I have to go out with these people, do I have to make the same effort, or am I going to feel like a prick or a look like I don't know?
Speaker 1:So I mean it's like I can tell you.
Speaker 2:I just start going. No, I'm not going to that. Do you want to come to this? What is it? Who's there? No, I'm good, that's what I do. I'm like. No, I'm all right, no, no.
Speaker 1:Confidence plays into it though, because like when I was you know, you remember, when I was younger and stuff, I mean obviously it's quite bloke. It is normally like a shirt, jacket, jeans or whatever, but or what actually back then, 2003 is probably Like bootleg jeans and a t-shirt Like a normal casual t-shirt, with a jacket over top of the t-shirt probably, and then sort of that's. That was the sort of style Then what is it now?
Speaker 1:Well, no, yeah but it was quite specific then that you know that sort of look and but like. But I used to. I did used to care about like, like, wanting to look fashionable and wear the right stuff. But no, because I'm like, because I'm older and I've been fat for about 10 years, right, I just I do want to look nice, but you think it's like you know.
Speaker 2:Shining. You see the.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you see, because you see, you see like the mannequin in the window where you see, oh my how fucking old am I? You see that the clothes are lined and they're modeled by some fucking anything. Oh, that's good, and then you get it back and it doesn't look anything like I. I'm always close. There's these habits on tv now about these t-shirts for fat bloke's, where they they fitted for fat.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I almost bought one. Oh, I bought fucking. I bought boxer shorts the other day with pandas on and and my missus said they're my favorite boxer. She's never won. I was like I don't know what that really says, really, but yeah.
Speaker 2:If you, if you, um, if you ever look, if you ever. So I did this for Henley, right, for example, like, even though, like you know so I was desperate to go, but I was, um, thinking, right, I need to look at what are people wearing, what should I be wearing, right? So I looked on that Pinterest, like right, what?
Speaker 1:what more you love to interest, don't you? I only could list put it on to me she was like I know I'll never forget that when we put it to a holiday and like knowing you as I do like you're not into social media. You know I do none of that bullshit. He's like, hey, I've done a Pinterest board. I was like what?
Speaker 2:I said that the previous time I'd use Pinterest with for the holiday, so not into it, but like, compared to other social media, I am. And yeah, so looking at that, all right, let's have a look what people are wearing. And I thought, right, 40s fashion or you know whatever. A look at it. Fine, it is, it's fashion for men in the 40s, men who were models in their 20s and 30s, like us. Like us, that's what I'm saying. Everything looks good on them, regardless. They are technically 40, but like they're not, do I mean. It's like, come on, you could, but they could wear the same things. I just looked and I thought, ah, fuck off, like this is ridiculous, like I didn't look like that when I was 20. I don't like that. Now I put that on. I just look like a wannabe prick.
Speaker 2:So part of what you're talking about what outfit it's not, it's the specifics of what they're wearing. So like they're wearing trousers, but they roll up the, you know the, the bottoms, and they wear like shoes with no socks. And then they've got this like jacket with a. I just think I just look like a knob and part of me almost wants to dress like a twat. Just to like to go completely against it. Dress badly, just to go. Well, this is me. I dress badly. There we go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I honestly, if I was like in shape and like slim, and I probably would want to wear like decent stuff and I'd be thinking about what I'm wearing and putting that in for it's together and all that sort of stuff, but I just I'm happy if it covers any kind of fucking. It covers at all, like winters are fucking great season for me. I just get as many fucking layers on as possible. So and then I just think great comfort layers Stay indoors keeping warm.
Speaker 1:I just hate that. Oh need to go out and let's try night for on there. That looks fucking horrendous. No, that looks fucking horrendous. Oh, great, that's great.
Speaker 2:That's fucking old great next summer, next summer, let's. This is the plan.
Speaker 1:Oh, let's do it, mate. If we had fucking pump over every time, we said, next summer I'll be a millionaire.
Speaker 2:Now let's do it. Let's get you get fit for next summer.
Speaker 1:Yeah try.
Speaker 2:You've heard it on the podcast. On the podcast, the podcast you've heard in the pad costs first, you heard it on the podcast. The podcast. Actually, you've seen on the podcast. You haven't because we can't get the video sorted, but you've heard it on the podcast. First I do in.
Speaker 1:Panto, I'm playing the beast and I've got like fucking. I've got to do fight choreography. I've also got to play a print. I thought you said fat choreography then, but it will be.
Speaker 1:It will be I. I covered it last year and I did, honestly, I do the. I covered it for a few shows and it's a big fight scene with the wolves at the end of act one and you're doing it. You've got this fucking mask on and cape and it's like you're chucking dancers around and and all this and then you go what's all this shit? And like, honestly, it's only like probably about Two minutes, three minutes or something like that. It felt like a fucking lifetime and I come off and everyone go back to dress tunes. I'd go outside and let's take 10 minutes to even just I was going to catch my breath thinking I'm gonna die, I'm gonna fucking die.
Speaker 2:You're gonna have a fucking heart attack. This may be the last season of 40 plus of mine. This is John's gonna die on stage.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna come at the end, take the fucking mask off and they're gonna go. Where's the prince?
Speaker 1:He hasn't fucking transformed I put it back on, I've been cast as Prince TBC as well, so it's beast slash prince TBC. Which basically means, is it gonna look fucking stupid? And I think you know, I think they've. I think the girl that's playing opposite me isn't like. Like last year when I was covering it, I played opposite a 20 year old and a 22 year old and they had to do like the Kiss at the end as the Prince it must. It was ridiculous, like I was like fucking yeah, kids, it'll be the parents.
Speaker 2:Kids don't see that. Kids are just like oh, they've got together, you know, but like I'm gonna be like I'm gonna, I'm gonna like a prince out of fucking.
Speaker 1:I mean, my prince is gonna be like the one out of fucking Game of Thrones, like Baratheon, robert Baratheon.
Speaker 2:You know you need to do. You need to do. Put a screen on, use AI, put a filter on.
Speaker 1:Anyway, so that's, that's me. So I've got. I've got that to look forward to. I'm looking forward to that. I love to panter last year, but I'm gonna rest the cast as well.
Speaker 1:That's always I'm working back with the same game again this year, but then we're different venue, but we're going up to see the venue we did last year because there's three or four of them that's still doing it again. But that's gonna be great. But you just think that's that. That's when the confidence is, you know, because I'm going in and noting that they're gonna be a lot of Sort of maybe some grads in there or people who haven't left drama school yet as the ensemble.
Speaker 1:And then there's gonna be there's a few like sort of like celebrities in the yes, all the children, tv celebrities and whatnot, and and you know it doesn't matter because, like you're going in there yourself, people are set to see who you are. But I go in there, going, oh, fucking hell, they're just gonna go. Why is this fat bastard playing the fucking B4? Do you know what I mean? I just can't see. Confidence is already on the back foot. You're going in there, going, oh, fucking, I'm in there going. All they're thinking is like, why have we fucking given this role then? Fucking this like this ridiculous, like you should be playing fucking Humpty, dumpty or something.
Speaker 2:Imagine if they went oh, are you playing the dame? Like no, I'm playing the beast, just just that. Look that kind of like as you. You're like hi, my name's John. Oh, you, you playing the dame, job, no, no. Oh, so are you the dad? No, go through the entire list and then like wait what?
Speaker 1:I feel like it's like you going in and they, they've gone. Oh, we've got this guy To come in and play Brian May, and then you rock up with no hair. It's like, it's the fit. It feels like that to me. Yes, can you? Sorry, my cat is like, literally like can you, can you give me?
Speaker 2:What's he wanting now?
Speaker 1:God knows, he's always doing this. He wants food. But I've given him food but he's just. But he looks at me like the most little, cutest little me out.
Speaker 2:He's like See you need a um, we need to get a cat translator.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. Confidence is it's up and down in your 40s, isn't it? What are you?
Speaker 2:not confident about though.
Speaker 1:Obviously, we spoke about this before with the, with the dad dancing, but yeah like dancing no, what look?
Speaker 2:I'm confident that I've got rhythm and I could actually do it, but I'm not confident that won't feel like a prick when I get up there.
Speaker 2:Do you know what I mean? Like the issue is not being able to do it. The issue is like that when you get up there and you're doing it, you just feel like a twat Like the two of us, right? We've done enough dancing in our lives in shows and all the rest of it to know that, whatever was going on, you could do it. You could do it, right, but you would feel like a knot. People are like why am I doing this when I'm my age?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, yeah. There is, yeah, that kind of yeah, the coolness of the coolness just goes.
Speaker 2:The risk of injury?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's it. It's like everything's a fucking everything's stiff nowadays and not in a fucking good way, Is it?
Speaker 2:I mean, it's supposed to be stiff, isn't it Everything?
Speaker 1:is supposed to be is Walking around like a fucking tin man nowadays. Like I can't.
Speaker 2:Ha, ha, ha ha, Ah, mate, I fucking you know. Also I told you I injured my knee like a while, so it's still.
Speaker 1:Mate, how is the knee?
Speaker 2:Ha ha, it's all right, it's better, but it's not great. So I'm strapping it up. But I still have to teach hit class and spin class. Right, but yesterday was the first time I've been able to actually do properly do most of the exercise with the hit class. I normally just like run through and like laugh at everyone. I was like come on, guys, let's go. I cannot move today. Like I am in so much pain because I haven't been able to do it properly for three weeks. Unbelievable amount of pain, Like I am walking like the tin man. It's absolutely ridiculous, that's a yes man.
Speaker 2:You know it's fine and I'm telling other people what to do.
Speaker 1:Talking of confidence, to say how you feel one, I think it's time to do our usual feature, which is the moment of the week. The moment of the week, the moment of the week. Do you know what, juan? I'm going to start this one this week. I think you should. I go for it. I think I've got the confidence to do it.
Speaker 2:Nice one, well done. Now you're in your 40s.
Speaker 1:So it's quite a specific one, this one. But Okay, I went and had my service done and they told me that the front two tires one was at two mil and one was at three mil they need to probably get replaced in the next month or so and with winter coming up and everything else, blah, blah, blah I thought, fine, I'm going to do that. And so I put them in and I took them to like a I think it was a Hullfords or something I thought brilliant, so I left it with them. I came back and they brand new tires on there, excellent. I started driving away down the road and I realized, like I don't know, five minutes down the road, I've got a thing on my dial that tells you what your tire pressures are. They didn't fucking pump the tires up properly. They're like fucking, they're like, I think. So my PSI is like 35 all around.
Speaker 1:They're all like 30 and 31. I'm like, isn't that like the bare minimum? Like you get new tires, they put them to the right pressure. Surely that's part of the service. I was like, so I had to then go and spend a pound in a fucking whatever it was, two pound in a garage to pump them up myself. I was like this is what the world's gone. Fucking mad.
Speaker 2:That's like the home base story I gave for the last one about fucking. That's the base level of knowledge. That's all they got.
Speaker 1:Like surely, though, like just you give me new tires, pump them up to the right, fucking. I just don't get it. I was like I can't believe that. It's like going for new glasses and they've not bothered to fucking put the arms on the glasses. I don't know, it's ridiculous. So, anyway, that's my small, small moment of the week, but yeah, ridiculous.
Speaker 2:It is quite specific, but I can see why that would be fucking irritating.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, sorry. I wanted air in my fucking tires. I should have asked you, shouldn't I? I should have said would you mind pumping them up to the required pressure so that they're safe to drive?
Speaker 2:Like mine, your car tells you right when the pressure's too low on the screen. So, like, obviously, like 10 years ago, the car wouldn't have told you right.
Speaker 1:You just would be driving those tires and see when you'd be all right, exactly, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then at some point you'd be like, hang on a minute, this one. You might even think you got a flat or something or that you're tired of your tires.
Speaker 1:But the thing is I need to drive a certain distance before it kicks in to show you what your tires are, because it has to register.
Speaker 2:That's what they guarantee right.
Speaker 1:They've got a fucking anyway, whatever.
Speaker 2:But you also have to say about it you can't even complain because it's afterwards. You're calling and say it sounds petty, doesn't it? That's what I mean. It sounds petty, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'll turn around and go sorry, can you put the? I thought they're so busy and then I've got to go in there. I've got to wait and then I've got to reverse the cut. I thought that's not worth it, but I was like that's the bare minimum. Innit, just fucking put the fucking air in the tires that you fucking put on whatever. That's my moment of the week moving on, wash yours Fucking the fuck.
Speaker 2:My moment of the week is I always talk about this shit, but like I always talk about cyclists and all that kind of stuff and I am harping back to the cyclists again, but this again is quite specific, right? So now we know that cyclists look like they tell them to cycle in the middle of the road. Fucking irritating, obviously, because Do they, though?
Speaker 1:is that a thing? They're going slower? Yeah, Really yeah, they do. Yeah, what do you mean? They tell them to cycle in the middle of the road.
Speaker 2:So that if you're on a road like, for example, they say something like, you can take up the middle of the road rather than going to the side, especially in like narrow roads and stuff. Don't try and like, don't try and go to the side to let the cars pass, stay in the middle if you're on a narrow road because you don't want to encourage it and like it's dangerous and all that kind of shit.
Speaker 1:Mate, this has happened to me again then, because that the day that that fucking 20 mile an hour thing came in in Wales, I didn't know it was coming in, I had missed all this. I didn't know I'm driving around going, what the fuck is wrong with these people? And then I got home and realized, and the other day I was driving behind cyclists on this single file road and they were too abreast right in the middle and I was getting so fucking annoyed I was like what the fuck is wrong with you? And now I know they didn't. And they're told to do it. And they're told to ride at least to abreast, even though it's fucking. Yeah, they do, yeah, they've been told to do that.
Speaker 2:So it's to do with safety or something. So yeah, on the roads around here there's a cycle lane as well and they still ride two or three abreast onto the fricking road. That's when the road goes up to 40 miles an hour and they're still cutting out the road, like I've been driving 20 for the last fucking 10 minutes, gone to 40, you're still doing it. I want to knock them off regardless anyway. That's just Britain. That's just fucking Britain again. So I've got to bring all the oldies back. I've kind of got to grips with that to a point, because around here everyone thinks they're a fucking Olympian. So the cyclists, in fairness, are traveling in 20 to 25 miles an hour. There's so many electric bikes now as well. Is that a bike, or are they?
Speaker 1:Yeah, with a head to toe in Lycra, with all the fucking branding, they look like cats.
Speaker 2:but they're fucking. You know they're trying. So the other day I was going on the road I had to turn into park to go to work. Right, I'm driving at the road and this woman on a bike was like okay, she's fine, she's in the middle of the road. I thought she's just picking up speed. No, she's not Five miles an hour, five miles an hour. I was like I cannot drive at this speed, like it's almost impossible to drive a distance at five miles an hour. She was just ambling along like she was on a fucking country lane.
Speaker 1:Look, she's in the middle of the road, yeah, country lane being the operative word.
Speaker 2:Fucking, there's me and a load of traffic behind me, obviously, and never do you get the beep because they can't see the bike. I'm like, obviously I'm not going to drive at five miles an hour, but this woman, I was like, if for anyone, if you cannot cycle faster than five fucking miles an hour, like get an electric bike or fuck off the roads and get attached to him, because what is that about five miles? I just wanted to ram into her and he's so fucking selfish.
Speaker 1:So fucking selfish. That's fucking unbelievable. I overtook your bike this the other day. That was a single file country lane, like we said. Yeah, there's cars coming the other way, but there was a big stretch where I can see there's no cars coming. So I went, I indicated it, went out into the other lane and went around him. He went fucking mental. He was like the size of back a bar. I was like what? What I gave him like loads of fucking room. Well, what I'm supposed to do sit behind you for fucking 10 miles, not a fucking chance.
Speaker 1:Like you know he's going. Oh, I just can't believe it.
Speaker 2:It's that fuck is that whole? It's the entitlement that comes with it, the light. You're not on it. You're not an appellate, you're not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're not fucking Chris.
Speaker 2:Boardman shut the fuck right, this is it. And then, like the, where I am, they come out like they, they all. There's loads of like. I think you talk to these four cycle like groups. You know this is like you know whatever, whatever cycling club don't care, whatever, and then fine, good, they do what they do, but they don't look when they come out of crossings. I talked to this in the first series.
Speaker 1:They don't stop for red lights either. They fuck off.
Speaker 2:They just keep going through. So you're turning off like on, like little mini roundabouts. You look right, so yet there's no one coming and they don't slow down to see if, by chance, a car is already on the roundabout.
Speaker 2:No they just come out like 20 of them Happened to me before nearly drove into me and then start shouting at me. I was like what planet do you think I'm not just going to go out this car and kill you all, like I don't care, like honestly, I just wanted to like drive over the people, their bikes, run back over them again a few times just to make sure, take pictures, send it to their family and just like that.
Speaker 1:It's like excessive reaction again. But you know my example is so angry Is that I'm fucking with you and that my example that I was talking about earlier with the two abreast it like this road I'm not joking like it's Miles and miles and miles long. It's going through the middle of Welsh moor and common land. There's the odd, the odd turning off to random little villages here and there, but it's like I would say it's 10 to 12 miles long until you get to any kind of different lanes.
Speaker 1:So it's that can't go by for 10 you can't fucking like right behind two fucking cycles that whole way at 20 miles. It's up and down, you know, like valleys and like just come on, come on, like it should. What's the point in having a fucking? It's a 40 mile, 40 mile limit down there or 30 mile, it's not like that 40 or 50, but I can't go that speed and then that and then you go around and you like the dick and it's just like.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that was a rule, but those cyclists, if they were in their cars, would be feeling the same way about cyclists in front of them stopping.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's like all of us like I'm like, literally I'm like a driver, we said this before. I'm like fucking Moan what. I step out of that car and then a pedestrian you fucking driving them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm always right. Ah, it's just called something I'm always right yeah for sure I was on the bike like that. Yeah, I don't have. You know, I don't think this is same around you, but it's probably. It's a moan for another week. We're just on. Like the the car, like the cars now, as much as I love one, this particular car are getting so big Like they can no longer fit on the streets around here. The lab fucking buses going past and the people driving them quite clearly cannot drive them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can't park them.
Speaker 2:Can't fucking drive them, can't do it. I'm like what? So I get? I get stuck in like Sainsbury's, like you know, going into like because I was upstairs parking. You have to go out quite narrow. They just give you this like narrow, like little pathway to drive up. You've got these cars that can barely make it up there, so they're going up onto the curbs.
Speaker 1:They're all be like oh yeah, they probably don't need to on the kerbs, just the fucking driver.
Speaker 2:It's the driver. Yeah, yeah, it's for sure the driver and they're just. They can see them panicking and then stopping and reversing about. I'm like fucking hell, someone, get them a bike so I can knock them off it. I've just, I've just just developing like complete zero tolerance nowadays.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I spoke to my partners uncle the other day because he came and visited and he's he's probably, you know, 20, 30 years older than me and I said to her I was like I said I've got this zero tolerance. I said I think I've hit this peak of my life where the general public and people and bullshit, I said I said I can't deal with it. I said when you get like in 20 years time, am I just gonna? Is it just sort of mellow and go, it doesn't matter? And he went no, he said you kind of just learn, you just kind of just don't worry about it. You know saying things. But he said it's thought people still were irritate, the shit at me. I was like I said I just can't, I can't bear the stupidity of humans.
Speaker 2:I can't bear it.
Speaker 1:I just can't bear it.
Speaker 2:We're at the age, I guess, now when you're getting annoyed and on some level, you can kind of still back it up a bit, a little bit. You're still kind of young enough and strong enough and potentially intimidating enough to be able to stand there and go. What, in 20 years time, might not have the same power?
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe that's part of it as well, I don't even mean just that, though. I just mean in terms of that I just think like I'm not very good. We said this before. I'm fucking terrible with injustice and like if someone gets away with something minor Petty. I just want to be like no either, fuck, you shouldn't be able to get away with that. You shouldn't be able to get away with just. You know, I let you know I do a nice thing and letting you drive through it.
Speaker 1:It's if it's your fucking world and you're right to be getting there you don't even give me an acknowledgement that I've done that, or like there's one um Yesterday. So there's this two lane road going back to where we live on the main, on the main front there, and they called enough a lane because of road work and such. It was obviously two going into one and this, this Mercedes was trying to get in and there's another Mercedes was just doing that thing where he was not going to let me. You know he's gonna keep pushing, so there's no gap. So this Mercedes was hovering.
Speaker 1:So I then fucking, obviously, really obviously, dropped back from the Mercedes in front of me, left a massive gap for him to go in, was about to flash my my light students and let him go in. When he went in, didn't fucking say thank you, didn't acknowledge it, and I instantly, I'm fucking raging in the car. I'm like, I'm like, oh no, fucking that of course not a problem. Then I made it my fucking mission between there and home to make sure I got in front of him. Somehow that petty and I did, I managed to get in front of him.
Speaker 2:I think it's an extension of the opening the door.
Speaker 1:No one says thanks right, it's an extension of that kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Of like, thank you and I know people sometimes are in their own worlds, but come on.
Speaker 1:That vet though that vet wouldn't bother about it. You better. Well, I just don't go, whereas I'm like going back in town. That's that's what I don't like about myself sometimes.
Speaker 2:But we told you he's probably a serial killer. I think that's his downfall. This is downfall. He's probably a serial killer. In fact, I think he is.
Speaker 1:I think I'm gonna out him as a serial killer, maybe maybe, but that's yeah, that's the one thing I probably changed myself is there is the annoyance at petty things. I'm just like it shouldn't matter. It doesn't matter, see, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2:I would change.
Speaker 1:Everyone else.
Speaker 2:I would. I would just make people like have to do it, so I don't get annoyed. Because it is irritating so just because I don't get annoyed, it's, they're still doing it, it's still irritating.
Speaker 1:Well, well, I think on that note, let's uh, let's bring back a good old feature to finish off our episode with, after our little rants there, to put put some zen back into the world, some guidance to live how we would live our very accomplished lives, I think.
Speaker 2:I know what you're talking about, john. What are you talking about? And I think I think this week it might be you Haha go for it. I think john is gonna deliver for everyone's listening pleasure. 40 plus and minuses pearl of wisdom.
Speaker 1:If the jelly has not set, do not place the lizard.
Speaker 2:I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 1:No, was I. I didn't have one ready, but I'll do, I love it Nice See you next week.
Speaker 2:My cat just tries this, so I may see you next week.